The stupidity of conservatives makes me sick, sometimes. Maybe they're just lazy, or just don't really care. Look,hardwarejunkie9 (11:21:58 PM): but here's the thing, he stands on more points that I agree with than any other candidate.
shadyslayer31 (11:22:01 PM): even most of the delegates at the RNC weren't neo-conservatives
hardwarejunkie9 (11:22:08 PM): so I don't really have a choice
shadyslayer31 (11:22:15 PM): and i feel sorry for you on that
shadyslayer31 (11:22:23 PM): what's he got that you agree with?
shadyslayer31 (11:22:49 PM): I'm just asking, cause I really can't see why people are voting for him anymore. it just completely escapes me.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:23:29 PM): what he's got me on
hardwarejunkie9 (11:23:35 PM): is that I don't want Kerry in office.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:23:38 PM): plain and simple
shadyslayer31 (11:23:44 PM): why?
hardwarejunkie9 (11:23:48 PM): I don't see a better alternative.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:23:53 PM): I havent' seen a clear cut plan.
shadyslayer31 (11:23:55 PM): i have
shadyslayer31 (11:23:59 PM): cause, you know
shadyslayer31 (11:24:04 PM): i've actually gone to www.johnkerry.com
shadyslayer31 (11:24:10 PM): and watched his DNC speech
hardwarejunkie9 (11:24:14 PM): true.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:24:20 PM): factcheck
shadyslayer31 (11:24:30 PM): what do you mean by that?
hardwarejunkie9 (11:24:31 PM): he tosses up more BS too.
shadyslayer31 (11:24:37 PM): right
shadyslayer31 (11:24:47 PM): and bush talking about how we've "turned a corner" on the Economy wasn't BS
hardwarejunkie9 (11:25:01 PM): on the numbers...
hardwarejunkie9 (11:25:03 PM): bush is doing very well
shadyslayer31 (11:25:06 PM): right
hardwarejunkie9 (11:25:08 PM): the economy has gone up
shadyslayer31 (11:25:11 PM): yes, there are more jobs
shadyslayer31 (11:25:16 PM): but wages are terribly low
hardwarejunkie9 (11:25:22 PM): true.
shadyslayer31 (11:25:28 PM): so what's the point
shadyslayer31 (11:25:33 PM): of a bunch of jobs
shadyslayer31 (11:25:35 PM): if they pay nothing
hardwarejunkie9 (11:25:37 PM): but how is he supposed to handle that right now?
shadyslayer31 (11:25:45 PM): i just feel like we're becoming corporate slaves
hardwarejunkie9 (11:25:51 PM): as it comes down to exonomic progress
hardwarejunkie9 (11:25:59 PM): he has some of hte best numbers in 40 years
hardwarejunkie9 (11:26:02 PM): and that's a fact.
shadyslayer31 (11:26:06 PM): ..no he doesn't
hardwarejunkie9 (11:26:09 PM): yes.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:26:11 PM): he does
shadyslayer31 (11:26:16 PM): he has some of the *worst* numbers in 40 years
hardwarejunkie9 (11:26:21 PM): the 3 stats that Kerry quotes against him
hardwarejunkie9 (11:26:23 PM): are cherry picked
hardwarejunkie9 (11:26:29 PM): he has some of the best results
shadyslayer31 (11:26:37 PM): where did he say that?
shadyslayer31 (11:26:46 PM): cause i've never heard that. from anywhere.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:26:49 PM): factcheck
hardwarejunkie9 (11:26:59 PM): and they're a neutral party
shadyslayer31 (11:27:03 PM): ...so you go to one place for all your facts?
hardwarejunkie9 (11:27:07 PM): no
hardwarejunkie9 (11:27:12 PM): I don't go to one place
shadyslayer31 (11:27:15 PM): yes, and Bill O'Reilly claimed to be an Independant.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:27:16 PM): they just have the best material
shadyslayer31 (11:27:37 PM): uh huh
shadyslayer31 (11:27:40 PM): meaning what?
hardwarejunkie9 (11:28:32 PM): meaning they have sources
hardwarejunkie9 (11:28:35 PM): to back it up
hardwarejunkie9 (11:28:38 PM): archives.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:28:45 PM): and they call everyone on their bluffs
hardwarejunkie9 (11:28:51 PM): but both of them are lying to us.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:29:01 PM): the only advantage I see is that bush is getting resulta
shadyslayer31 (11:29:03 PM): i don't know. i just see bush lying more.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:29:03 PM): resulta**
hardwarejunkie9 (11:29:07 PM): results**
shadyslayer31 (11:29:08 PM): what results?
shadyslayer31 (11:29:11 PM): people with no jobs?
shadyslayer31 (11:29:16 PM): the poor going to war?
shadyslayer31 (11:30:08 PM): not funding No Child Left Behind?
shadyslayer31 (11:30:18 PM): i don't see results.
shadyslayer31 (11:30:29 PM): when i go to school, and i see low standards, i don't see results.
shadyslayer31 (11:30:50 PM): when i come home, and my mom can't pay all of our bills cause her wages just got lower, i don't see results
hardwarejunkie9 (11:30:51 PM): and how the heck is Kerry going to solve that?
shadyslayer31 (11:30:56 PM): at least, not results that i like
hardwarejunkie9 (11:31:00 PM): it's not like you can snap your fingers and it'll get fixed.
shadyslayer31 (11:31:02 PM): no
shadyslayer31 (11:31:04 PM): but i figure
shadyslayer31 (11:31:07 PM): he'll actually try
hardwarejunkie9 (11:31:09 PM): but it's gettting fixed
shadyslayer31 (11:31:13 PM): no it's not
hardwarejunkie9 (11:31:20 PM): it takes more time
shadyslayer31 (11:31:25 PM): how much more time?
shadyslayer31 (11:31:28 PM): 4 more years?
shadyslayer31 (11:31:29 PM): 8?
shadyslayer31 (11:31:31 PM): 12?
hardwarejunkie9 (11:31:35 PM): and I'M just as bad off on it as you are too.
shadyslayer31 (11:31:47 PM): how big will the deficite be in 2008?
shadyslayer31 (11:31:56 PM): i can't wait to find out.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:32:05 PM): how did we drag ourself out of depression and recession in the past?
hardwarejunkie9 (11:32:22 PM): Familiar with the New Deal?
shadyslayer31 (11:32:31 PM): yeah
hardwarejunkie9 (11:32:40 PM): we spent money to do that
shadyslayer31 (11:32:45 PM): we didn't do it by cutting taxes for the wealthy.
hardwarejunkie9 (11:32:47 PM): and yes, we DO need to cut the bills
shadyslayer31 (11:32:51 PM): yeah
shadyslayer31 (11:32:55 PM): but for the middle class and poor
shadyslayer31 (11:32:57 PM): not the wealthy
hardwarejunkie9 (11:33:04 PM): we are funding things that need to be cut loose
shadyslayer31 (11:33:07 PM): yes
shadyslayer31 (11:33:12 PM): we are
shadyslayer31 (11:33:19 PM): but not Social Security and Medicare
shadyslayer31 (11:33:34 PM): not education
shadyslayer31 (11:33:51 PM): what do you think our share of the debt will be?
It just kept going from there. just worse and worse. Trey, I love him, because he tries to know what he's talking about. But he's really been just a bit brainwashed, in my opinion. I looked up the people who run Factcheck. They're conservatives, mostly. They've got one Libral, and I think that's just to save face. Poor guy.
It's kinda sad though, that you have to FACTCHECK YOUR FACTCHECKERS. Can't trust no one these days.